More on Terri…

From BlogsForTerri:

Michael Schiavo has suspended all visitations, including those by Terri’s parents. He is in contempt of court because there is a court order allowing the Schindlers to be with Terri in her court ordered final hours. I’d be surprised if this court actually upheld its own order and brought consequences to Michael Schiavo. It is ok with killing a woman, why would it care if her parents were there during the execution?


Terri Groggy and Unresponsive: High fever last night likely due to infection caused by improper removal of the feeding tube

According to a trusted source, Terri developed a high fever last night, most likely due to infection caused by improper removal of the feeding tube… she is groggy and unresponsive, and may not make it much longer.

Much to Michael Schiavo’s dismay, I’m sure, Terri has come back from a life threatening infection before. Michael did not allow any medical treatment of Terri during her illness - apparently in the hopes that she would die. I don’t know if the congressional subpoena would supercede any medical directives Michael has given regarding medical care, but I hope so.

15 Responses to “More on Terri…”

  1. Josh S Says:

    How can a vegetable become groggy and unresponsive? Oh wait, because she wasn’t a vegetable. How about that.

  2. Elle Says:

    Huh. Weird how that works.

  3. Tim Says:

    This whole thing is really turning my stomach. I really just hate it, its getting to the point where I don’t want to read about it anymore because it makes me sick.

  4. Thomas Lowe Says:

    Isn’t this a case where we are at this point due to Terry not having a Living Will? I and my wife have one and we make it clear if we are permantly brain damaged and left in a vegatative state we are to be euthanized. If you don’t have a Living Will please get one it will keep circuses like this one from happening.

  5. Simon Says:

    just in case you don’t read “everything” ……

    “By now most people who read liberal blogs are aware that George W. Bush signed a law in Texas that expressly gave hospitals the right to remove life support if the patient could not pay and there was no hope of revival, regardless of the patient’s family’s wishes. It is called the Texas Futile Care Law. Under this law, a baby was removed from life support against his mother’s wishes in Texas just this week. A 68 year old man was given a temporary reprieve by the Texas courts just yesterday.
    Those of us who read liberal blogs are also aware that Republicans have voted en masse to pull the plug (no pun intended) on medicaid funding that pays for the kind of care that someone like Terry Schiavo and many others who are not so severely brain damaged need all across this country.

    Those of us who read liberal blogs also understand that that the tort reform that is being contemplated by the Republican congress would preclude malpractice claims like that which has paid for Terry Schiavo’s care thus far.

    Those of us who read liberal blogs are aware that the bankruptcy bill will make it even more difficult for families who suffer a catastrophic illness like Terry Schiavo’s because they will not be able to declare chapter 7 bankruptcy and get a fresh start when the gargantuan medical bills become overwhelming.

    And those of us who read liberal blogs also know that this grandstanding by the congress is a purely political move designed to appease the religious right and that the legal maneuverings being employed would be anathema to any true small government conservative.

    Those who don’t read liberal blogs, on the other hand, are seeing a spectacle on television in which the news anchors repeatedly say that the congress is “stepping in to save Terry Schiavo” mimicking the unctuous words of Tom Delay as they grovel and leer at the family and nod sympathetically at the sanctimonious phonies who are using this issue for their political gain.

    This is why we cannot trust the mainstream media. Most people get their news from television. And television is presenting this issue as a round the clock one dimensional soap opera pitting the “family”, the congress and the church against this woman’s husband and the judicial system that upheld Terry Schiavo’s right and explicit request that she be allowed to die if extraordinary means were required to keep her alive. The ghoulish infotainment industry is making a killing by acceding once again to trumped up right wing sensationalism.”

  6. Daniel Sellers Says:


    I’m starting to wonder if it wasn’t for the red herrings and the ad hominem tu quoque fallacies if you would have anything to say.

  7. Simon Says:

    since when is pointing out hypocrisy morally irrelevant?

    and what is ad hominem about pointing out that Congress’ action was a complete violation of its role in government, in the same way that judges who step on the feet of the legislature are rightfully called “activist”?

    you just attacked me personally — i haven’t attacked anyone here personally.

  8. Joseph [Detroit Mich] Says:

    Have doubts whether Terri should LIVE or die….go to this site…and see for yourself.

    Select this link and then the link titled “Decide? for a short video….see if she looks and sounds brain dead to you…seeing and hearing is believing.

    Many people are confined to a bed, etc. but that doesn’t mean they are useless…and with the proper therapy Terri could have a good life…after she gets away from her husband (sic).

  9. Josh S Says:

    Terri’s a little bit on the “responsive” side to qualify as a vegetable on life support. A feeding tube isn’t an artificial lung.

  10. Josh S Says:

    Fortunately, though, she’ll be dead soon, and then we can figure out how to solve this nasty Jewish problem.

  11. Simon Says:

    Just a question to you all who are more confident in your opinion about this case than i am in mine:

    Why don’t you believe the majority of neurologists who have said that her reactions are mere reflexes and not actually responsive reactions to her environment? Hours and hours of videotape has been taken of her, and you are focusing on the few moments when there does seem to be a correlation between her environment and her reactions. But for most of the time, there is no correlation — it just appears to be reflex. At least, this is what the neurologists are saying.

    Now, neurologists are fallible human beings, like all of us. But why are you 100% confident in your opinions when these neurologists are have a different one? What motivation could they have to lie? They are not nazis, josh’s comment notwithstanding.

    Just please tell me why you are so 100% sure you are right when many courts have looked at this and have no motivation to end someone’s life without justification. I have worked with liberal and conservative judges, and I can tell you that they don’t approach these cases differently. They both care about the very same thing: what this person would have wanted and respecting the decisions of their surrogates when they become incompetent.

    So why do you think the courts just want her dead, in the same way that nazis want jews dead? I mean, someone accused me of making unhelpful comments. How is *that* comment helpful. I can assure you that judges — liberal, conservative, or in the middle — do not take these cases lightly or have some motivation to kill.

  12. Therese Z Says:

    Simon, no independent review has been taken of her case for years. Nobody has been her guardian, independent of her husband, whose interests are hugely conflicted, for years. No MRI, no PET scan: those neurologists are pretty darn sure of something they can’t even see.

    That’s what this latest effort of the government required; a de novo review by an INDEPENDENT guardian, an fresh and independent review. Have her fed while that disinterested party sifted through the data.

    Those neurologists might be right, but they’re guessing at this stage. Her husband might be right, but he has no proof. Too many maybes and Terri should be protected while those maybes are reviewed.

    AND, to make this perfectly fair, if they withdraw the feeding tubes, they should allow feeding by mouth. The “extraordinary measure” here is the tube, really, but they’ve made it the food and water. But, no, her husband has forbidden that too. Terri has all her chances controlled by him and she’s become his property.

    I’m praying for the conversion of Michael’s heart, and for her peace and her life.

  13. Simon Says:


    THank you for the respectful response.

  14. Daniel Sellers Says:


    Your own response hanged you.

  15. Simon Says:

    My response did no such thing. Daniel — you seem only interested in attacking me personally. You apparently think that is consistent with the golden rule.

    I did not fully respond to Therese because I did not think a dialogue would be fruitful. I was curious as to the basis of the opposite side’s opinion, and Therese provided an answer — and was respectful in doing so. I am appreciative of and have respect for her for that, even if I disagree. I can’t say the same things about your posts.

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