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		<title>by: the moose report &#187; A post on baptism&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-12468</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] ng&amp;#8211;salvation as given through baptism. Elle and I again discussed this yesterday, but&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.intolerantelle.com/index.php?p=495&quot;&gt; she blogged about it first&lt;/a&gt;, so I&amp;#8217;m just going to add my two cents here: 	Why wait to baptize [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] ng&#8211;salvation as given through baptism. Elle and I again discussed this yesterday, but<a href="http://www.intolerantelle.com/index.php?p=495"> she blogged about it first</a>, so I&#8217;m just going to add my two cents here: 	Why wait to baptize [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Mark Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-10094</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Elle:
Amen to you sentiments here!

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Elle:<br />
Amen to you sentiments here!</p>
	<p>Mark
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		<title>by: Jeremy Abel</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9213</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Elle:
Since we're not having the baby for another 6 months I didn't think you were implicating me. As to this: &quot;I would have trouble turning to an average set by dirty rotten sinners for advice about when to make my child part of God’s family&quot; - I am seeking neither advice nor an average. It was a simple question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Elle:<br />
Since we&#8217;re not having the baby for another 6 months I didn&#8217;t think you were implicating me. As to this: &#8220;I would have trouble turning to an average set by dirty rotten sinners for advice about when to make my child part of God’s family&#8221; - I am seeking neither advice nor an average. It was a simple question.
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		<title>by: Elle</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9199</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jeremy, I'm not sure what the average wait is for new Lutheran parents.  I'm not intending to imply that you are doing this (I'm intending to imply that many parents do it because they don't think too deeply about the sacrament), but I would have trouble turning to an average set by dirty rotten sinners for advice about when to make my child part of God's family.  

I don't get the church answering for the child, either.  It doesn't make sense to me considering the church's confession of faith regarding sinful nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jeremy, I&#8217;m not sure what the average wait is for new Lutheran parents.  I&#8217;m not intending to imply that you are doing this (I&#8217;m intending to imply that many parents do it because they don&#8217;t think too deeply about the sacrament), but I would have trouble turning to an average set by dirty rotten sinners for advice about when to make my child part of God&#8217;s family.  </p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t get the church answering for the child, either.  It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me considering the church&#8217;s confession of faith regarding sinful nature.
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		<title>by: Jeremy Abel</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9191</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My wife and I found out a few weeks ago that we are expecting our first child so I've been thinking about infant baptism quite a bit lately. We're fairly new Lutherans (1.5 yrs) so we're still adjusting to all the different aspects of life in a Lutheran church. What is the age that most people baptize their children in a Lutheran church? Also, what is the significance of the church answering for the child? I understand (and glady affirm) the doctrine of infant baptism - it's just some of the logistics I'm confused about. And I am talking to a pastor about these things. I just thought I'd throw the questions out for consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My wife and I found out a few weeks ago that we are expecting our first child so I&#8217;ve been thinking about infant baptism quite a bit lately. We&#8217;re fairly new Lutherans (1.5 yrs) so we&#8217;re still adjusting to all the different aspects of life in a Lutheran church. What is the age that most people baptize their children in a Lutheran church? Also, what is the significance of the church answering for the child? I understand (and glady affirm) the doctrine of infant baptism - it&#8217;s just some of the logistics I&#8217;m confused about. And I am talking to a pastor about these things. I just thought I&#8217;d throw the questions out for consideration.
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		<title>by: Parableman</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9137</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Baptism Into God's Family&lt;/strong&gt;
IntolerantElle has a question for those who see baptism as a means of grace. Why do parents not baptize their children as soon as possible after birth? Now I believe she has in mind the Lutheran view, but Presbyterians have...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>Baptism Into God&#8217;s Family</strong><br />
IntolerantElle has a question for those who see baptism as a means of grace. Why do parents not baptize their children as soon as possible after birth? Now I believe she has in mind the Lutheran view, but Presbyterians have&#8230;
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		<title>by: Dan at Necessary Roughness</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9088</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rachel and Elle:

When our kids were born, we were just getting started in our new church, and we didn't have the Lutheran pastoral support we perhaps needed.

Our family, primarily hers, were there to help us out. They are Methodist, and Methodists teach a doctrine of &lt;a href=http://www.revneal.org/Writings/rememberbapt.html&gt;prevenient grace&lt;/a&gt;. This is why the urgency was not there among our family to get the kids' baptism done.

I carry a little bit of guilt in not being home enough to enforce our Lutheran traditions in the home.  I take refuge in that our children are baptized, and when I am out they still do receive the Word in a Christian Chruch. Were I home more and we had a third child coming, there will be incentive to handle things differently.

I caution against assuming that people wait because they are callous. I know this is an intolerant blog :), but there is a way to teach and correct without insult. Thank you for your participation in this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rachel and Elle:</p>
	<p>When our kids were born, we were just getting started in our new church, and we didn&#8217;t have the Lutheran pastoral support we perhaps needed.</p>
	<p>Our family, primarily hers, were there to help us out. They are Methodist, and Methodists teach a doctrine of <a href=http://www.revneal.org/Writings/rememberbapt.html>prevenient grace</a>. This is why the urgency was not there among our family to get the kids&#8217; baptism done.</p>
	<p>I carry a little bit of guilt in not being home enough to enforce our Lutheran traditions in the home.  I take refuge in that our children are baptized, and when I am out they still do receive the Word in a Christian Chruch. Were I home more and we had a third child coming, there will be incentive to handle things differently.</p>
	<p>I caution against assuming that people wait because they are callous. I know this is an intolerant blog <img src='http://www.intolerantelle.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , but there is a way to teach and correct without insult. Thank you for your participation in this topic.
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		<title>by: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9086</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Baptism IS the gift of life and salvation!</description>
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		<title>by: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9085</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>God says, &quot;I want to give you and your children life and salvation.&quot; Is this a bibical verse? If so, where is it quoted from. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>God says, &#8220;I want to give you and your children life and salvation.&#8221; Is this a bibical verse? If so, where is it quoted from. Thanks.
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		<title>by: Dan at Necessary Roughness</title>
		<link>http://www.intolerantelle.com/?p=495#comment-9084</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Theresa K.:

Parents can baptize the baby in absence of a pastor.  &lt;a href=http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=3455&gt;LCMS documentation&lt;/a&gt; for baptism in emergencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Theresa K.:</p>
	<p>Parents can baptize the baby in absence of a pastor.  <a href=http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=3455>LCMS documentation</a> for baptism in emergencies.
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